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Discussion in ' Baha'i ' started by Ruth WhiteSep 7, Log in or Sign up. Interfaith forums. Aug 26, Messages: New York City, June 19th, Translated by Dr.

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Tomorrow I wish to go to Montclair [New Jersey]. Today is the last day in which we gather together with you to say farewell to you. Therefore, I wish to expound for you an important question, and that question concerns The Covenant. In former cycles no distinct Covenant had been made in Granny chat in Id Ahmed Baha by the Supreme Pen; no distinct personage had been appointed to be the Standard differentiating falsehood from truth, so that whatsoever he was to say was to stand as truth and that which he repudiated was to be known as falsehood.

He entered into a covenant and testament with the people. He appointed a Center of the Covenant.

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You must ask him Abdul-Baha regarding the meanings of the texts of the verses. Whatsoever he says is correct.

Without his will not a word shall anyone utter. So there is no rescue left for anybody.

No soul shall, of himself, speak anything. His Holiness Abraham covenanted with regard to Moses. In case of difference—Abdul-Baha must be consulted.

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They must revolve around his good pleasure. I pray for you, and I am pleased with all of you, each one, one by one; and I pray that GOD may aid and confirm you. From Montclair I will come back to you.

New York is favored, I go away and I come back to it. The friends in New York must appreciate this. At present, farewell to you! Published November the Twelfth, nineteen hundred and twelve. The Bahai Assembly of Washington, D. Ruth WhiteSep 7, For Bbc seeks anal tonite discussion of Baya fraudulent will and testament of Abdul-Baha, and by implication his authentic Covenant, Granny chat in Id Ahmed Baha the Website Discussion thread here on the Interfaith Bahai Forum: Ruth WhiteSep 8, Ruth WhiteSep 9, Oct 17, Messages: How large is the reformed Baha'i denomination?

What cities have Bahaa Ruth BauaSep 10, However, please note this is an interfaith forum - we're here to gain inputs from people of all different faiths.

This is not about making judgements about specific faiths, trying to extoll one over another, and especially not about trying to diminish any specific faith here. This, however, seems to be your remit. In which case, I can Ahked politely inform you that this thread will need to be closed and Granny chat in Id Ahmed Baha I don't expect any more threads or posts which seek only to undermine another faith, not matter how sincere your arguments are intended.

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If you wish to take the position of Granny chat in Id Ahmed Baha Baha'i" and provide your own personal insight in general discussion topics based on this, then that will be all well and good. However, as to your comments on Shogi Effendi and the "Haifan Baha'is" - you've made that point clear, we've heard, but we're moving on now. It's entirely your decision as to whether you wish to validate your position by remaining with us in the manner of interfaith dialogue as stated.

Sorry if you've taken offense! I'm responding here in this thread because I'm able to, since the one you addressed me in seems to be "closed.

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To Adult wants real sex Aromas my posts to "passion" doesn't seem quite fair to me, if you don't mind my saying so. I invite you to read the suppressed history of the Bahai Movement and the relevant documents, if you haven't. I believe it's also fair to point out that the apparent members of the Haifan Baha'i denomination here have not provided much, if any, evidence that they've seriously read and considered the sources I've cited, such as Abdul-Baha's Authentic Covenant, published repeatedly in the Star of Granny chat in Id Ahmed Baha West, the only Bahai magazine of the time, from toand central to the unfolding of the Bahai Cause in the West.

I do apologize if you Granny chat in Id Ahmed Baha I've been too vigorous in expressing my opinions. Alas, we human beings do believe things, and inevitably others think otherwise. I have tried to be broad and open minded, as in my discussion with Radarmark, mentioning Fritjof Schuon, Fox, the Quakers, and other Perennialists.

I don't claim to have the exclusive truth about the Bahai teachings, but I Granny chat in Id Ahmed Baha the version most people accept as representative of it is not based on Abdul-Baha's actual interpretation of Baha'u'llah for the modern world. That may not matter to you, but it does matter. As Sex chat room West Auckland sincere believe of any faith, or most, I believe I have a duty to not hide the Light under a basket.

I'm not afraid to hear the opinions of other Bahais or of non-Bahais hearing the criticism Haifans have of the Reform Bahai Faith.

I ask only for what John Milton aptly put into words, "Give me the liberty to know, to utter, and to argue freely according to conscience, above all liberties. Nevertheless, I'll try harder not to hurt the feelings of others, while inviting others to make an effort Bhaa.

Best wishes.

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Ruth Granny chat in Id Ahmed BahaSep 22, Sep 16, Messages: Well Ruth, I can't speak for Brian, but I think he wants from you more about what you DO believe, instead of just "Those other guys are wrong. If they don't want to Granny chat in Id Ahmed Baha these old quarrels, they're not under obligation to; just because nobody bothers to fight with you, doesn't mean that you're thereby proven to be in the right. Mar 7, Messages: BruceDLimberSep 22, It is, in my own view, a fundamental problem with any "scripture-driven" religion: So there have to be official "interpreters" of the infallible scriptures: Ruth, I rummaged around the Internet a lot; yes, I've read the Address on the Covenant that you lay so much store on, and I read your?

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The "living Guardianship" website has a poignant question from someone who really was interested in learning more-- Ahmrd could only be told that there is no-one to e-mail, and he could write a letter to Shogomanian but the Guardian doesn't usually answer letters anymore; the quarterly magazine is all cnat, hasn't had Granny chat in Id Ahmed Baha new material written in years.

And "Reform Baha'i"?

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Besides your meeting in Rochester, I couldn't find any sign that there even exist any others. I saw the reprint of your amicus letter to the court, in which you claimed to have "[deleted] members"; you're really terrified that Haifa is going to come get you if they learn the awful secret of how many attend your meeting? Ruth WhiteSep 23, Bensalem live sex cams are people supposedly involved with them who Granny chat in Id Ahmed Baha definitely been false identities in the past.

The above was posted by "Ruth White," speaking of falsehoods!

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BruceDLimberSep 23, Bob, After you finish that stage of your reading and research, please read my books: Kindle, ePub. Incidentally, Bob, since you bring up the Orthodox Baha'is and so forth, you might want to read the following Granny chat in Id Ahmed Baha from The Chicago Tribune: Federal appeals court rules in favor of splinter Baha'i group November 25, 8: May 1, Messages: Please, Baha'u'llah has spoken of unity, of going along with the group Wives wants casual sex Fairhaven if it is wrong if it means unity can survive.

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Granhy Why do you call yourself Baha'i if you cannot even uphold this simple aspect of the message? It is fine if you are not Baha'i, I have left the faith because there is simply a deeper truth in the Sufi circles that Baha'u'llah has risen out of.

You must either uphold Baha'u'llah or leave the Baha'i faith, doing neither you are doing a great Granny chat in Id Ahmed Baha.

It is naught but ego, perhaps God has broken the covenant Baha'u'llah has received if you feel he is a true messenger. Clinging to the Baha'i faith without upholding its values Granny chat in Id Ahmed Baha simply wrong - it is irrelevant what a court says on the matter. The Baha'i faith is a dictatorship, you can see it simply being around them - granted it is dictated by committee but there is little difference effectively.

At first they will be friendly, then gradually they will try to push you towards their ideals.

You have rebelled against this, yet you cannot do it completely. I would suggest perhaps reading some Hazrat Inayat Khan or some other Sufi and move on from the repressiveness of the Baha'i faith. Know though that the very existence of the Reform Baha'is and all other splinters show Baha'u'llah is a fraud - you are not helping his message at all.

Perhaps this is your lifes mission? Grwnny do not see much point in it though, it is a waste of time totally. LunitikSep 23, Lunitik, I respect your conscience and feel for you and your experience, with love and Granny chat in Id Ahmed Baha. I've read many Sufi books, recently and through the years. Granny chat in Id Ahmed Baha all respect, Baha'u'llah's teachings are deeper and more profound than those from a Sufi pir.